Act Of Forgiving... What Did Jesus Really
Say About Forgiving Others?
I recently read an article
which was sent to me by way of email from,
"got questions.org." Either they lacked
understanding or they are New Agers telling partial
"Partial truth" is
the same as a lie. I'll list a few excerpts from
this article to make my point.
If I seem to come across as
a bit angry, I am! So please be forgiving towards
me as I am tired of those who misuse the
teachings of Jesus. New Age Teachers are crafty.
Jesus warned us many times. Their article comes
across as holy, kind, sweet and many other
descriptive words that describe methods that
false teachers use. Some of them do it out of
ignorance, some are deliberate.
This is from their article:
The question they pose: "Since
God does not forgive until a person
confesses/repents, does that mean we can withhold
forgiveness from those who sin against us until
Excerpt from the answer they
They wrote: As
Christians we are certainly obligated to forgive
others who sin against us when
they are repentant
if we are to expect God to forgive us when we sin
against Him (Matthew 6:14-15, 18:23-35; Mark
11:25, Luke 17:3-4, Ephesians 4:31-32, Colossians
In the paragraph above, the
writer mentioned the key words but then in the
article they failed to apply them in their
teaching article... the very principal, upon
which, Jesus apparently based HIS lesson. I'll
repeat Jesus' qualifier... "when
they are repentant!"
Pay careful attention to the
phrase that I highlighted and underlined in the
On this page I will simply
respond to this one point. Follow this scenario:
Let's say a person rapes and kills your daughter.
This person does not earnestly confess and repent
of the act. Let's say they just uttered a few
words asking forgiveness or some such apology...
or perhaps said nothing at all. Let's say you
just do as the writer of the attached article
suggests you must do in order for you to be
forgiven by God of your sins.
Let's say that this killer
doesn't even know God. In other words he is not a
"Brother" in Christ. He never repented.
That person remains the same but you forgive
him/her unconditionally. You even ask for
leniency and the judge lets this person out of
prison in a few years. This murdering, rapist has
your forgiveness and the judge exercised pity and
in light of your attitude, gives the person a
light sentence... A few years later, he comes
back and kills your other child and 10 other
people who are at your child's birthday party.
Let's say that a few of the adults who were
killed had not yet accepted Christ and they are
condemned to hell. Now their souls are lost
eternally because you did not understand Jesus'
teachings. You listened to a New Age devil, a
wayward preacher or a website that did not teach
the true word of God. Now YOU are guilty of being
an accomplice to murder! The blood is now on your
As far as I can see, you are
responsible for the lives of these innocent
people and all the lives that were ruined by your
blind ignorance of bible scripture and lack of
understanding of Jesus' teaching. You didn't know
that Jesus said that you must forgive ONLY if the
sinner is "a "Brother" and if he
sincerely repents." Most folks don't seem to
know the definition of "repent." To
"repent" means to earnestly change and
vow to never repeat that transgression... the
person will be grieved that they committed the
foul and honestly promise to themselves and to
God they will change and never repeat that sin.
That's the tip of the word. It goes even deeper.
For those who don't know; a
"Brother" means a "saved," or
"born of God," Christian Brother... Not
an unrepentant devil who is hell bound and does
not even know Christ.
Now... To fully understand
what Jesus said and how HE meant it, go to the
following link for the entire story... Read my
entire page: www.john33.com/forgive.htm.
Most preachers in the modern
church teach the same thing. Be careful... few
people teach the true word of God. The world has
become rotten because the church has not
performed the way Jesus intended! Jesus intended
HIS church to be built upon Peter; Jesus'
hand-picked disciple that HE worked tirelessly
with to perfect as the "Rock" upon
which HE would build HIS church. Instead, the
Council at Nicaea, 325 AD, chose to make Paul's
doctrine, the doctrine upon which to build the
New Covenant Church. The New Testament is
"All Paul." Constantine and his council
determined that. Paul's doctrine is a doctrine of
"grace" that leaves the teachings of
Jesus and God's laws in the dust... That's
Below is the entire article
they sent to me. Read it carefully and you will
see that they teach unqualified
Here's their article, my
comments are in red.
"Since God does not forgive until a person
confesses/repents, does that mean we can withhold
forgiveness from those who sin against us until
Answer: The Bible speaks of two kinds of
forgivenesshuman forgiveness, that of
people extending forgiveness towards others, and
divine forgiveness, Gods forgiving human
beings. Is there a difference? Gods
forgiveness is conditional upon repentance, but
as well see, our forgiveness is neither
conditional on being asked for it, nor on seeing
fruits of repentance.
The Bible teaches us that God withholds
forgiveness towards people who are not repentant
(2 Kings 24:4 and Lamentations 3:42). God is able
to do this because of His very nature: He is
sinless. He is perfect. He is holy. He simply
will not tolerate sin. Paul warns those who
choose to transgress Gods law in Romans
2:5, But because of your stubbornness and
your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath
against yourself for the day of Gods wrath,
when his righteous judgment will be
revealed. But there are also times in the
Old Testament when God forgave those who did not
seek His mercy and forgiveness. He did so for His
own purposes and in accordance with His perfect
As Christians we are certainly obligated to
forgive others who sin against us when they are
repentant if we are to expect God to forgive us
when we sin against Him (Matthew 6:14-15,
18:23-35; Mark 11:25, Luke 17:3-4, Ephesians
4:31-32, Colossians 3:13). This holds true even
if someone sins against us repeatedly (Matthew
18:21-22). However, this does not give us license
to withhold forgiveness in the same way. The key
to remember is this: God can judge a
persons intentions because He knows
whats in a persons heart (1 Samuel
16:7; Hebrews 4:12-13), whereas we dont. We
are not God. We are not the Judge. For us to play
God by refusing to offer forgiveness is an act of
judgment on our part, and Jesus tells us that God
will judge us according to the way weve
judged others (Matthew 7:2).
When Peter asked Jesus how many times we should
forgive someone, Jesus answered that we must
forgive as many times as necessary. Then He
illustrated forgiveness with a parable about a
man who, although forgiven by his master of an
overwhelming debt, refused to forgive another for
a meager debt. When this mans master heard
about his ingratitude and injustice, he was
outraged and had him thrown to the tormentors.
This is how My heavenly Father will treat
each one of you, unless you forgive your brother
from your heart (Matthew 18:35).
NOTE FROM JOHN: Agreed!
However, Jesus did say what the offender must do
to expect to be forgiven. "If a brother,
confesses and repents, forgive him."
(paraphrased as usual) Tell the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth... not bits and
pieces of the truth. A partial truth is a lie. We
should quote Jesus completely and accurately.
to the article...
Surely, by receiving such a massive pardon, we
should not be so mean-spirited as to withhold
forgiveness from others. Rather, we should
emulate the example of our Savior. In truth,
offering forgiveness is an act of will, and
failure to acknowledge this will only encourage
us to justify our own disobedience. Forgiveness
is not a fruit that needs time to grow in our
lives. It is not a result of some special
encounter with God. Jesus makes that clear in
Luke 17:4 when He commands that if someone sins
against another seven times in one day and
repents as many times, that person should be
forgiven. Forgiving someone for the same offense
several times in one year would be a major test
of sanctification, so seven times in one day
drives Jesus point home. The disciples were
so staggered by this that they immediately
requested an increase in their faith (Luke 17:5).
Jesus then told them what such a tiny amount of
faith can achieve by explaining that a servant
does not receive praise for carrying out
ordersfor simply doing his duty. Hes
telling us that we do not need great faith to
forgive, but only to choose to carry out the
Remember, it was Jesus who cried out from the
cross, Father forgive them for they do not
know what they are doing (Luke 23:34).
Stephen asked that those who were stoning him be
forgiven (Acts 7:60). In both cases, forgiveness
was unconditional. Those around the cross were
not asking for forgiveness, and neither were
those stoning Stephen. And, obviously, someone
who sins against us seven times in one day is not
demonstrating fruits of repentance. By emulating
Jesus and Stephen, the action of extending
forgiveness releases us and allows us to receive
forgiveness. To wait until we are asked may mean
we never get an opportunity to forgive and would
also prevent us from being forgiven. In all this
we must realize that God never asks us to do the
impossible. Were it beyond our ability to forgive
from the heart, Jesus would never have directed
us to do it.
NOTE FROM JOHN: Let's say
the interpretation of the biblical account is
correct and we correctly perceive HIS words...
Then it is correct; Jesus forgave them while
hanging from the cross, BUT... On judgment day,
Jesus will throw them into hell... An
everlasting, tormenting punishment! How's that
for forgiveness? Did HE really forgive them? If
HE did then they will not be punished in hell.
Even though they cried out that HIS blood be
charged against them... We can twist words and
make them read any way we want. That's why HE
sent the Holy Spirit to HIS kids... so we can
know the difference between right and wrong.
This is the way false
teachers and New Age devils change the word of
God and send you to hell... As for Stephen asking
that his killers be forgiven; Stephen could not
forgive the sin of murder, not even his own. Nice
gesture on his part but he had no authority to
forgive them of murder. It is out of context to
even consider that type of forgiveness be
exercised by the victim. Don't be too hard on
yourself if you are not able to practice those
saintly gestures to which those false teachers
hold us. Let's try to be realistic. If you are
forgiving killers and rapists for their sins you
are playing God! You can dismiss the sin
committed against you but all those other sins
are against God and you have no right to pretend
that you can forgive them. You cannot forgive
murder. That is one of "the 10" and not
for you to play with. Catholics believe that
their priests can forgive sin but protestants do
not. Or do they? Perhaps it's time to reconsider
things that wayward preachers teach?
Back to their article...
But what if there is no indication of repentance?
The law given to ancient Israel is akin to the
New Testament teaching: Do not hate your
brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor
frankly so you will not share in his guilt. Do
not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of
your people, but love your neighbor as yourself.
I am the Lord (Leviticus 19:17-18). An
unforgiving spirit leads to bitterness, anger,
and seething resentment against another. Such a
heart attitude cannot have true fellowship with
God. Not holding grudges allows a state of mind
that is ready and willing to forgive.
Reconciliation is the goal, and if there cannot
be reconciliation, an attitude of willingness to
forgive must be maintained. There can be no
excuse for withholding a forgiving spirit towards
others (Matthew 5:2224).
NOTE FROM JOHN: Forgive
them if they are a "BROTHER" AND IF
THEY REPENT AND IF THEY ASK FOR FORGIVENESS.
That's the way Jesus taught it. Luke 17: 3Take
heed to yourselves: If thy brother
trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if
he repent, forgive him.
if he trespass against thee seven times in a day,
and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying,
I repent; thou shalt forgive him.
Remember; tell the whole
truth! We complain about judges being too soft on
criminals yet many sweet-mouth Christians are
sucked in as fools.
Back to the article... THIS IS
FOM THEIR ARTICLE (BELOW) - NOT FROM ME...
As stated at the beginning, human forgiveness and
Gods forgiveness have differences. The
Lords Prayer teaches that we are to ask for
Gods forgiveness regularly, just as we are
regularly to forgive others who have sinned
against us. But human nature wars against this.
As Paul said, So I find this law at work:
When I want to do good, evil is right there with
me (Romans 7:21). Like Paul, we must know
that of our own strength, we are powerless to do
the right thing. But as Christians who possess
the Holy Spirit, when we rely on His power, we
can do all things through Christ who strengthens
us (Philippians 4:13).
Now don't confuse their
article with my writing. Read my entire page www.john33.com/forgive.htm